Twigs, Charcoal, and the Death of the Saxon Dyke Myth
Contents
- 1 Introduction
- 2 Conclusion: Follow the Data, Not the Doctrine
- 3 References
- 4 Annex: The “Twig” Radiocarbon Dates—Technical Details
- 5 Further Reading
- 6 Other Blogs
Introduction
For over a century, British archaeology has repeated the same tale: Offa’s Dyke and Wat’s Dyke were built by Saxon kings to define borders and display royal power. But each time we peel back another layer—literally and figuratively—the data tells a radically different story. This is no longer about interpretation or fringe theory. The scientific evidence, especially from radiocarbon dating, blows the Saxon myth apart.(Twigs, Charcoal, and the Death of the Saxon Dyke Myth)
1. The Mesolithic Nuts Beneath the Bank
At Gobowen, Shropshire, archaeologists uncovered pits beneath Wat’s Dyke filled with charred hazelnut shells and twigs. Radiocarbon dating placed these at 5210–4840 BC—deep into the Mesolithic. This is not “background noise.” It proves the site was in use—and likely managed—thousands of years before any so-called Saxon activity. (Twigs, Charcoal, and the Death of the Saxon Dyke Myth)

2. The “Twigs” and the Bronze Age Pattern
Here’s where things get explosive. Two different digs—at Gobowen and Maes-y-Clawdd—each pulled a charred twig from the primary fill of the dyke’s ditch. Both were sent to modern AMS labs for dating. These were sent to independent AMS labs for testing:
- Gobowen: 2825 ± 40 BP, calibrated to 1120–890 BC
- Maes-y-Clawdd: 2855 ± 40 BP, calibrated to 1120–890 BC
Different labs, different sites, nearly identical dates: Late Bronze Age.
Some might claim “residuality” or accident, but when the same date keeps showing up in primary contexts at different sites, the odds of pure coincidence plummet.(Twigs, Charcoal, and the Death of the Saxon Dyke Myth)

3. Erddig and Chirk: More Prehistoric Dates
The new gold standard in the debate is the peer-reviewed Archaeologia Cambrensis study (Malim et al. 2021), which returned:
- Erddig: Alder charcoal under the bank, 1414–1258 BC (Bronze Age)
- Chirk: Charcoal at base of bank, 776–543 BC (Iron Age)
These aren’t rogue samples. They are part of a systematic pattern. (Twigs, Charcoal, and the Death of the Saxon Dyke Myth)

4. The Car Dyke and Wansdyke Parallels
Our recent research on Car Dyke—summarised in my book, Car Dyke: The Lost Waterways of Prehistoric Britain—shows exactly the same pattern. LiDAR analysis, gradient modeling, and dated artefacts reveal this “Roman” canal sits atop a much older, prehistoric water-management system, later adapted by the Romans. The same sequence—prehistoric construction, Roman enhancement, and later reuse—emerges at other great linear earthworks.
Wansdyke: More than Just a Saxon Bank and Ditch
- Roman Water System at the Summit:
Topographic and archaeological evidence shows that a Roman water-management system, likely an aqueduct or channel, was constructed along sections of Wansdyke near Cliffe Pypard and Cherhill. The Roman works appear to incorporate the line and gradient of the existing dyke, indicating that the dyke was already present and subsequently adapted for Roman infrastructure needs. This reuse implies that the dyke is pre-Roman in origin, forming part of an older, possibly prehistoric, water-management landscape. Rather than constructing a new route, the Romans modified what was already there—strong evidence that Wansdyke was not their creation, but an earlier engineering feature they found valuable enough to repurpose. - Roman Road Laid On the Dyke:
To the north of Morgan’s Hill, a documented Roman road is physically laid on top of the Wansdyke bank. The logical sequence? The dyke had to exist before the road. (For detail and field evidence, see: prehistoric-britain.co.uk/prehistoric-canals-dykes-wansdyke4) - The Implication:
These features make it impossible to honestly claim that Wansdyke is purely a Saxon or sub-Roman structure. Instead, we’re seeing a prehistoric engineering work—possibly a canal or water-management feature—repurposed by the Romans, and then again in later centuries.
(Twigs, Charcoal, and the Death of the Saxon Dyke Myth)

A Consistent Prehistoric Pattern
The parallels between Car Dyke, Wansdyke, Offa’s Dyke, and Wat’s Dyke are now undeniable:
- All show prehistoric (Mesolithic, Bronze Age, or Iron Age) dates or structural evidence in primary contexts.
- All were reused, enlarged, or recut by later societies—be it the Romans, Saxons, or Medievals.
- All have been misunderstood because traditional narratives refuse to follow the evidence.

(Twigs, Charcoal, and the Death of the Saxon Dyke Myth)
5. Why the Saxon Narrative No Longer Holds
Traditional archaeology claims these dykes were built in the Dark Ages because it’s “what’s always been said” and because a handful of OSL dates cluster in the early medieval period. But with so many radiocarbon dates from secure, primary contexts returning Bronze Age and Iron Age results, the only scientific response is to question the narrative—not the data.
This shift isn’t limited to a few isolated studies. In 2019, Historic England (formerly English Heritage) published a national overview of linear earthworks, concluding that most of the dykes they had investigated dated to the prehistoric period, not the early medieval one. Their guidance document, Prehistoric Linear Boundary Earthworks, situates these features firmly in the Late Neolithic through to the Iron Age, aligning with the growing body of radiocarbon evidence and undermining the traditional Dark Age attribution.
Rather than reinforcing the Saxon story, modern research now supports a much older, more complex landscape—one that was later reused and reinterpreted by the Romans and Saxons alike.

(Twigs, Charcoal, and the Death of the Saxon Dyke Myth)
6. AI and Modern Method: The Death of Peer-Reviewed Dogma
For years, peer review has failed to challenge inherited assumptions. “Authority” was all that mattered—a single, dramatic radiocarbon date (like the infamous 6.25 kg of charcoal at Maes-y-Clawdd) could define an entire monument’s chronology, regardless of context or contradictory data from other sites.
But now? AI is revolutionising how we check and interpret archaeological evidence.
Take our recent FB post, where we used AI to reassess the Maes-y-Clawdd excavation:
- Myth: The excavation report’s headline date (c. 400 AD) from the charcoal was endlessly repeated as proof of a “Roman” or “sub-Roman” dyke.
- AI’s Role:
- Pulled together site photos, original reports, ditch profiles, and stratigraphy from multiple digs.
- Flagged the ditch’s V-shape (classic recut) and the heavy truncation of the bank (over half missing)—which undermined the idea that the charcoal was securely “sealed” and contemporary with construction.
- Cross-referenced other sites (Gobowen, Erddig, Chirk), showing that Bronze Age and Iron Age dates in similar primary contexts kept reappearing—not as random “residuals,” but as a systematic pattern.
- Outcome:
- Instead of blindly accepting published “facts,” AI let us validate or reject past interpretations using all the available primary evidence.
- The “Roman” story now stands exposed as an artefact of interpretation, not of data.
This is not “pseudoscience”—it’s the very definition of the scientific method:
- Gather all the evidence.
- Challenge every conclusion.
- Rebuild the narrative when the facts demand it.
Just as AI is transforming genetics, climate science, and engineering, it’s now arming archaeology with the ability to see through myths, correct errors, and put our past on a solid, evidence-based footing. If you want real history, let the data—and AI—lead the way. (Twigs, Charcoal, and the Death of the Saxon Dyke Myth)

Conclusion: Follow the Data, Not the Doctrine
The parallels between Offa’s Dyke, Wat’s Dyke, Car Dyke, and Wansdyke are now undeniable:
- All show prehistoric (Mesolithic, Bronze Age, or Iron Age) evidence in primary contexts
- All were reused, recut, or adapted by Romans, Saxons, and Medieval societies
- All have been misunderstood because inherited narratives resisted revision
The story we’ve been told—that Saxon kings built these monuments as borders—is no longer sustainable.
The data demands a paradigm shift. (Twigs, Charcoal, and the Death of the Saxon Dyke Myth)
References
- Hannaford, H.R. (1997), SCCAS Report no. 111, An Interim Report on Archaeological Excavations on Wat’s Dyke at Maes-y-Clawdd, Oswestry.
- Malim, T. & Hayes, L. (2008), The Date and Nature of Wat’s Dyke: a reassessment in the light of recent investigations at Gobowen, Shropshire, ASSAH 15.
- Malim, T., Hoggard, C., et al. (2021). “Offa’s Dyke and Wat’s Dyke: Scientific Dating at Chirk and Erddig, North Wales.” Archaeologia Cambrensis, 170, pp. 93–117.
- Langdon, R.J. (2024), Car Dyke: The Lost Waterways of Prehistoric Britain.
- For Wansdyke Roman features and road evidence: prehistoric-britain.co.uk/prehistoric-canals-dykes-wansdyke4
Twigs, Charcoal, and the Death of the Saxon Dyke Myth
Annex: The “Twig” Radiocarbon Dates—Technical Details
For those who want the technical data, here are the exact C14 results from the two most cited Bronze Age “twig” samples:
Site | Sample Type | Lab Code | Radiocarbon Age (BP) | Error | Calibrated Range (2σ) | Context |
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Gobowen | Charred twig | GU-14866 | 2825 | ±40 | 1120–890 BC | Primary ditch fill |
Maes-y-Clawdd | Charred twig | (various) | 2855 | ±40 | 1120–890 BC | Lower ditch fill |
- Both dates are from independent, high-quality AMS labs, and ±40 years is standard error for these samples.
- The calibration uses the most up-to-date IntCal curve.
- Their remarkable similarity is not a flaw, but evidence for a real prehistoric episode.
Further Reading
For information about British Prehistory, visit www.prehistoric-britain.co.uk for the most extensive archaeology blogs and investigations collection, including modern LiDAR reports. This site also includes extracts and articles from the Robert John Langdon Trilogy about Britain in the Prehistoric period, including titles such as The Stonehenge Enigma, Dawn of the Lost Civilisation and the ultimate proof of Post Glacial Flooding and the landscape we see today.
Robert John Langdon has also created a YouTube web channel with over 100 investigations and video documentaries to support his classic trilogy (Prehistoric Britain). He has also released a collection of strange coincidences that he calls ‘13 Things that Don’t Make Sense in History’ and his recent discovery of a lost Stone Avenue at Avebury in Wiltshire called ‘Silbury Avenue – the Lost Stone Avenue’.
(Maritime Diffusion Model for Megaliths in Europe)
Langdon has also produced a series of ‘shorts’, which are extracts from his main body of books:
(Maritime Diffusion Model for Megaliths in Europe)
Other Blogs
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- AI now Supports – Homo Superior
- AI now supports my Post-Glacial Flooding Hypothesis
- Alexander the Great sailed into India – where no rivers exist today
- Ancient Prehistoric Canals – The Vallum
- Ancient Secrets of Althorp – debunked
- Antler Picks built Ancient Monuments – yet there is no real evidence
- Antonine Wall – Prehistoric Canals (Dykes)
- Archaeological ‘pulp fiction’ – has archaeology turned from science?
- Archaeological Pseudoscience
- Archaeology in the Post-Truth Era
- Archaeology: A Bad Science?
- Archaeology: Fact or Fiction?
- Archaeology: The Flaws of Peer Review
- Are Raised Beaches Archaeological Pseudoscience?
- ATLANTIS: Discovery with Dan Snow Debunked
- Avebury Ditch – Avebury Phase 2
- Avebury Post-Glacial Flooding
- Avebury through time
- Avebury’s great mystery revealed
- Avebury’s Lost Stone Avenue – Flipbook
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- Battlesbury Hill – Wiltshire
- Beyond Stone and Bone: Rethinking the Megalithic Architects of Northern Europe
- BGS Prehistoric River Map
- Blackhenge: Debunking the Media misinterpretation of the Stonehenge Builders
- Brain capacity (Cro-Magnon Man)
- Brain capacity (Cro-Magnon Man)
- Britain’s First Road – Stonehenge Avenue
- Britain’s Giant Prehistoric Waterways
- British Roman Ports miles away from the coast
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- Caerfai promontory fort – archaeological nonsense
- Car Dyke – ABC News PodCast
- Car Dyke – North Section
- CASE STUDY – An Inconvenient TRUTH (Craig Rhos Y Felin)
- Case Study – River Avon
- Case Study – Woodhenge Reconstruction
- Chapter 2 – Craig Rhos-Y-Felin Debunked
- Chapter 2 – Stonehenge Phase I
- Chapter 2 – Variation of the Species
- Chapter 3 – Post Glacial Sea Levels
- Chapter 3 – Stonehenge Phase II
- Chapter 7 – Britain’s Post-Glacial Flooding
- Cissbury Ring through time
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- Darwin’s Children – Flipbook
- Darwin’s Children – The Cro-Magnons
- Dawn of the Lost Civilisation – Flipbook
- Dawn of the Lost Civilisation – Introduction
- Digging for Britain – Cerne Abbas 1 of 2
- Digging for Britain Debunked – Cerne Abbas 2
- Digging Up Britain’s Past – Debunked
- DLC Chapter 1 – The Ascent of Man
- Durrington Walls – Woodhenge through time
- Dyke Construction – Hydrology 101
- Dykes Ditches and Earthworks
- DYKES of Britain
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- Hadrian’s Wall – Military Way Hoax
- Hadrian’s Wall – the Stanegate Hoax
- Hadrian’s Wall LiDAR investigation
- Hambledon Hill – NOT an ‘Iron Age Fort’
- Hayling Island Lidar Maps
- Hidden Sources of Ancient Dykes: Tracing Underground Groundwater Fractals
- Historic River Avon
- Hollingsbury Camp Brighton
- Hollows, Sunken Lanes and Palaeochannels
- Homo Superior – Flipbook
- Homo Superior – History’s Giants
- How Lidar will change Archaeology
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- Maiden Castle through time
- Maritime Diffusion Model for Megaliths in Europe: A Groundbreaking Study
- Mathematics Meets Archaeology: Discovering the Mesolithic Origins of Car Dyke
- Mesolithic River Avon
- Mesolithic Stonehenge
- Minerals found in Prehistoric and Roman Quarries
- Mining in the Prehistoric to Roman Period
- Mount Caburn through time
- Mysteries of the Oldest Boatyard Uncovered
- Mythological Dragons – a non-existent animal that is shared by the World.
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- Offa’s Dyke Flipbook
- Old Sarum Lidar Map
- Old Sarum Through Time…………….
- On Sunken Lands of the North Sea – Lived the World’s Greatest Civilisation.
- OSL Chronicles: Questioning Time in the Geological Tale of the Avon Valley
- Oswestry LiDAR Survey
- Oswestry through time
- Oysters in Archaeology: Nature’s Ancient Water Filters?
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- Pillow Mounds: A Bronze Age Legacy of Cremation?
- Post Glacial Flooding – Flipbook
- Prehistoric Burial Practices of Britain
- Prehistoric Canals – Wansdyke
- Prehistoric Canals – Wansdyke
- Prehistoric Canals (Dykes) – Great Chesters Aqueduct (The Vallum Pt. 4)
- Prehistoric Canals (Dykes) – Hadrian’s Wall Vallum (pt 1)
- Prehistoric Canals (Dykes) – Offa’s Dyke (Chepstow)
- Prehistoric Canals (Dykes) – Offa’s Dyke (LiDAR Survey)
- Prehistoric Canals (Dykes) – Offa’s Dyke Survey (End of Section A)
- Prehistoric Canals (Dykes) – Wansdyke (4)
- Prehistoric Canals Wansdyke 2
- Professor Bonkers and the mad, mad World of Archaeology
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- Rebirth in Stone: Decrypting the Winter Solstice Legacy of Stonehenge
- Rediscovering the Winter Solstice: The Original Winter Festival
- Rethinking Ancient Boundaries: The Vallum and Offa’s Dyke”
- Rethinking Ogham: Could Ireland’s Oldest Script Have Begun as a Tally System?
- Rethinking The Past: Mathematical Proof of Langdon’s Post-Glacial Flooding Hypothesis
- Revolutionising History: Car Dyke Unveiled as Prehistoric & the Launch of FusionBook 360
- Rivers of the Past Were Higher: A Fresh Perspective on Prehistoric Hydrology
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- Sea Level Changes
- Section A – NY26SW
- Section B – NY25NE & NY26SE
- Section C – NY35NW
- Section D – NY35NE
- Section E – NY46SW & NY45NW
- Section F – NY46SE & NY45NE
- Section G – NY56SW
- Section H – NY56NE & NY56SE
- Section I – NY66NW
- Section J – NY66NE
- Section K – NY76NW
- Section L – NY76NE
- Section M – NY87SW & NY86NW
- Section N – NY87SE
- Section O – NY97SW & NY96NW
- Section P – NY96NE
- Section Q – NZ06NW
- Section R – NZ06NE
- Section S – NZ16NW
- Section T – NZ16NE
- Section U – NZ26NW & NZ26SW
- Section V – NZ26NE & NZ26SE
- Silbury Avenue – Avebury’s First Stone Avenue
- Silbury Hill
- Silbury Hill / Sanctuary – Avebury Phase 3
- Somerset Plain – Signs of Post-Glacial Flooding
- South Cadbury Castle – Camelot
- Statonbury Camp near Bath – an example of West Wansdyke
- Stone me – the druids are looking the wrong way on Solstice day
- Stone Money – Credit System
- Stone Transportation and Dumb Censorship
- Stonehenge – Monument to the Dead
- Stonehenge Hoax – Dating the Monument
- Stonehenge Hoax – Round Monument?
- Stonehenge Hoax – Summer Solstice
- Stonehenge LiDAR tour
- Stonehenge Phase I (The Stonehenge Landscape)
- Stonehenge Solved – Pythagorean maths put to use four thousand years before he was born
- Stonehenge Stone Transportation
- Stonehenge Through Time
- Stonehenge, Doggerland and Atlantis connection
- Stonehenge: Discovery with Dan Snow Debunked
- Stonehenge’s The Lost Circle Revealed – DEBUNKED
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- Ten Reasons Why Car Dyke Blows Britain’s Earthwork Myths Out of the Water
- Ten thousand year old boats found on Northern Europe’s Hillsides
- Ten thousand-year-old boats found on Northern Europe’s Hillsides
- The Ancient Mariners – Flipbook
- The Ancient Mariners – Prehistoric seafarers of the Mesolithic
- The Bluestone Enigma
- The Dolmen and Long Barrow Connection
- The Durrington Walls Hoax – it’s not a henge?
- The First European Smelted Bronzes
- The Fury of the Past: Natural Disasters in Historical and Prehistoric Britain
- The Giant’s Graves of Cumbria
- The Giants of Prehistory: Cro-Magnon and the Ancient Monuments
- The Great Antler Pick Hoax
- The Great Chichester Hoax – A Bridge too far?
- The Great Dorchester Aqueduct Hoax
- The Great Farming Hoax – (Einkorn Wheat)
- The Great Hadrian’s Wall Hoax
- The Great Iron Age Hill Fort Hoax
- The Great Offa’s Dyke Hoax
- The Great Prehistoric Migration Hoax
- The Great Stone Transportation Hoax
- The Great Stonehenge Hoax
- The Great Wansdyke Hoax
- The Henge and River Relationship
- The Logistical Impossibility of Defending Maiden Castle
- The Long Barrow Mystery
- The Long Barrow Mystery: Unraveling Ancient Connections
- The Lost Island of Avalon – revealed
- The Maiden Way Hoax – A Closer Look at an Ancient Road’s Hidden History
- The Maths – LGM total ice volume
- The Mystery of Pillow Mounds: Are They Really Medieval Rabbit Warrens?
- The Old Sarum Hoax
- The Oldest Boat Yard in the World found in Wales
- The Perils of Paradigm Shifts: Why Unconventional Hypotheses Get Branded as Pseudoscience
- The Post-Glacial Flooding Hypothesis – Flipbook
- The Post-Glacial Flooding Theory
- The Problem with Hadrian’s Vallum
- The Rise of the Cro-Magnon (Homo Superior)
- The Roman Military Way Hoax
- The Silbury Hill Lighthouse?
- The Stonehenge Avenue
- The Stonehenge Avenue
- The Stonehenge Code: Unveiling its 10,000-Year-Old Secret
- The Stonehenge Enigma – Flipbook
- The Stonehenge Enigma: What Lies Beneath? – Debunked
- The Stonehenge Hoax – Bluestone Quarry Site
- The Stonehenge Hoax – Flipbook
- The Stonehenge Hoax – Moving the Bluestones
- The Stonehenge Hoax – Periglacial Stripes
- The Stonehenge Hoax – Station Stones
- The Stonehenge Hoax – Stonehenge’s Location
- The Stonehenge Hoax – The Ditch
- The Stonehenge Hoax – The Slaughter Stone
- The Stonehenge Hoax – The Stonehenge Layer
- The Stonehenge Hoax – Totem Poles
- The Stonehenge Hoax – Woodhenge
- The Stonehenge Hospital
- The Troy, Hyperborea and Atlantis Connection
- The Vallum @ Hadrian’s Wall – it’s Prehistoric!
- The Vallum at Hadrian’s Wall (Summary)
- The Woodhenge Hoax
- Three Dykes – Kidland Forest
- Top Ten misidentified Fire Beacons in British History
- Troy Debunked
- TSE – DVD Barrows
- TSE DVD – An Inconvenient Truth
- TSE DVD – Antler Picks
- TSE DVD – Avebury
- TSE DVD – Durrington Walls & Woodhenge
- TSE DVD – Dykes
- TSE DVD – Epilogue
- TSE DVD – Stonehenge Phase I
- TSE DVD – Stonehenge Phase II
- TSE DVD – The Post-Glacial Hypothesis
- TSE DVD Introduction
- TSE DVD Old Sarum
- Twigs, Charcoal, and the Death of the Saxon Dyke Myth
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- Wansdyke – Short Film
- Wansdyke East – Prehistoric Canals
- Wansdyke Flipbook
- Wansdyke LiDAR Flyover
- Wansdyke: A British Frontier Wall – ‘Debunked’
- Was Columbus the first European to reach America?
- White Sheet Camp
- Why a Simple Fence Beats a Massive Dyke (and What That Means for History)
- Windmill Hill – Avebury Phase 1
- Winter Solstice – Science, Propaganda and Indoctrination
- Woodhenge – the World’s First Lighthouse?
(Twigs, Charcoal, and the Death of the Saxon Dyke Myth)